PT Tu-154M 2.03. One of my training landings at the airport in Kai-Tak. Waiting for your ratings.
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Well done Andrew, went beautifully!)
− temp,
13 years ago,
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Thank you, Alex!
− AndreY_UATG,
13 years ago,
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A good fit, many argue that this curves to the left, right, but half of those present here to see prices in the lives of so do not produce a landing ...
− Wirage,
13 years ago,
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Excuse me here *
− Wirage,
13 years ago,
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+1
5
Well here is the highest class! super! may smallish yards on 50 but a way to rate the band! q4dez, people do not drink the brain fit great!
− Airbus350,
13 years ago,
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In a smallish place it and why?
− FireFly,
13 years ago,
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+1
5
I am very satisfied!
− FireFly,
13 years ago,
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-3
oh well
− KuZ9a,
13 years ago,
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5
Excellent! Always nice to see these videos!
− Glize,
13 years ago,
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5
Quote from the documentation of the script 9Dragons: .. Here are a few forum blurbs we found from actual pilots: "Lufthansa - and most airlines remained on LOC until MM, started a shallower turn and straightened the aircraft just as they reached the threshold, hence shorter finals. "Judging from the track, very similar, but in terms of flying, your visit has been carried out perfectly (in my opinion)!
− niculchenko,
13 years ago,
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5
Beautiful, well done!
− Victorious,
13 years ago,
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FireFly, yes, of course, VHHX. Here, he found: (http://hk.vatsea.net/airports/VHHX_AR.pdf), page 6.
− slyalikov,
13 years ago,
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Looked. And what is the Sotho your question - is there a difference in the performance of this approach in different scenarios? Answer - no
− FireFly,
13 years ago,
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5
Class! Not everyone is given on the 13th well put!
− Ил-76,
13 years ago,
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5
I also sat in this small town, only the "Queen of Heaven." Not very easy.
− BogdanLR,
13 years ago,
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5
Well
− Владимир Пахомов,
13 years ago,
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5
A nice landing 5 +
− pro100sky,
13 years ago,
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5
Beauty! damn, where you take these scenarios? just do not have pro sites! if not sorry, throw off in PM will be grateful!
− Serg5588,
13 years ago,
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download 4 parts for www.flightsim.com
− AndreY_UATG,
13 years ago,
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Thank you! everything was installed, the scene is beautiful!
− Serg5588,
13 years ago,
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5
well
− Shark_UIAA,
13 years ago,
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5
Good!
− Ant0n1o,
13 years ago,
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5
.
− NStK,
13 years ago,
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I do not spec for "bird" but not much about the call before sunset and began to "cut" set right ...
− q4dez,
13 years ago,
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No
− FireFly,
13 years ago,
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx3Ccs5tKfw&;feature=related - see how to properly need to go. The video with the Tu-154 is clearly seen that much right of entry
− q4dez,
13 years ago,
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I do not need to look at someone's video. I know how is the visit to Kai-Tak and where should start complete rotation.
− FireFly,
13 years ago,
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Well done. And why minus me and write there? We do not agree with me? Look at the video 0:45 - the feeling that he snagged the wing of the house =
− q4dez,
13 years ago,
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This moron a minus everything. I told you "no" so you spend less time on fruitless debates. But if you do not take for granted - look for the schema approach and understand.
− FireFly,
13 years ago,
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Well, I tried to pattern himself to perform:) But here is much the pilot was right - agree
− q4dez,
13 years ago,
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No. Above the marker - the beginning of self-centering. Roll to 15.
− FireFly,
13 years ago,
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There mast with strobes in exactly on the football field go a little left of the aircraft. If Bu complete rotation started a little later (after the token ring longer), it would be ideal, along the path. And so I started at the beginning of dovorachivat call marker (too early), so a little and cut. Well, rarely fatal, came out clearly. And the author: To be a bit more comfortable if the crown by 136 display, indicating the planting rate.
− Gennn,
13 years ago,
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"Over the marker" - it 5-6 seconds from the beginning to the end of the signal. :)
− Gennn,
13 years ago,
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But what about the scheme I have nothing against that! That's right, but he went exactly right. Another would be a little bit and hooked up to the house: http://www.avsim.su/jump.phtml?http://s014.radikal.ru/i328/1107/93/2b450f0aa3e5.jpg
− q4dez,
13 years ago,
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Strange argument. Even when coming on lokalayzeru VHHX according to the schemes after passing Middle Marker further set of purely visual => pilot as he wants, and turns, consistent only with their own personal views on the situation regarding Sun band. And if you visit a beacon NDB Stonecutters, then it is a visual after passage of the lighthouse => also no claims can not be. Villages - so all done correctly. Any gates there, the lights on the roofs etc. - Optional.
− slyalikov,
13 years ago,
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Prior to this home still will be 200 meters. This seemingness close:)
− Gennn,
13 years ago,
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Post, I do not know how they have there, and we have-: the farther from the path, the greater the likelihood that some chudilo on its roof antenna unauthorized primandyachit:)
− Gennn,
13 years ago,
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In short - the trajectory is almost perfect. I can believe it.
− FireFly,
13 years ago,
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Ideal for video that I sent the above ... And there went above the glide path
− q4dez,
13 years ago,
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Felix, then the ideality can be judged only on the final approach. A more ideal trajectory as such does not. There should be an ideal solution for bandwidth. He then and there. And who scares the house - well, take a bit to the left:)
− Gennn,
13 years ago,
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Genn, you let these things better with q4dez Argue. I'm in this scenario, the dog ate, and I do not need decoding the tracker to know what's what.
− FireFly,
13 years ago,
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I reason for the dispute in this case I do not see. Personal desire to wrap up steeper or smoother ... I flew there. And I do not see much difference in the curvature of the bend. Well, I started earlier or later complete rotation, and to hell with him ... Went smoothly, clearly, he sat down gently. How can there be complaints?
− Gennn,
13 years ago,
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I have appeared unto thee:) Restrictions on entry to the roll and vertical speed are they? You flew there, but that no one has yet seen, and set off, I bet.
− FireFly,
13 years ago,
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http://www.avsim.su/f/simulyatori-89/il-76-kai-tak-38220.html?action=viewonline And I somehow set off your to what? :)
− Gennn,
13 years ago,
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You are not there flew - this is a different scenario. Your face on a mile further. A flight in Kai-Tak with the scenario of 9dragons is the latest exercise in Kulp.
− FireFly,
13 years ago,
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Ok. Put, compare with pleasure.
− Gennn,
13 years ago,
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Compared. From the beginning of self-centering (well over the masts of gates) before landing at the start of contact - the same flight (flying on a Cessna). Moreover ... Flaytampy after this miserable scenario is the default. So it seems that the band begins closer. Just here it is poorly drawn. Put back Flaytampu.
− Gennn,
13 years ago,
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Yeah. They are already on the hill CheckerBoard learned to draw? :) Genn, from Fly Tampa even a straight line from the marker to the end of the 400-meter long distance.
− FireFly,
13 years ago,
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I, too, there seemed to be complete rotation before the start of what is necessary.
− inv,
13 years ago,
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Track this landing: http://s49.radikal.ru/i125/1107/54/60854ecace1c.png
− AndreY_UATG,
13 years ago,
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Our noble virpilam and then will all look and sound ...
− FireFly,
13 years ago,
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Well, the track itself shows that the BMB did passed to the right.
− inv,
13 years ago,
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+1
: Facepalm
− FireFly,
13 years ago,
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FireFly is straight forward on defense, as if someone here says that the complete rotation performed correctly. Simply said, that was a bit to the right poles with lanterns. Whole-only and no more ... And about the fact that the end to half a mile further than necessary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8DOyUheO_I Then a smooth transition from one scenario to another. The coincidence of geography ideal. The difference may be only in the location of the markers. But it is absolutely fatal. Relax:)))
− Gennn,
13 years ago,
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I, of course, tried to go on the lights and poles. But I tell you that in this case, in order to reach the end, it is necessary to lay the roll at an altitude of 150 meters below 15 degrees, and it is a violation. Lights themselves in this scenario as - it is not at the rate of raspolozheny.IMHO
− AndreY_UATG,
13 years ago,
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Gennn, your marker is on a mile northwest of the marker 9dragonsyu. You understand that means on the glide path lishih a mile in height, and traversed by the road? This means with the same roll and vertical speed - or the end is passed at 15 meters or 45. That is, your script and your experience here as it would do with it. A flight "is not on street lights" - is generally a remark Lamer.
− FireFly,
13 years ago,
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Do not take a sense, colleagues - what difference does it closer or farther IM? Sunset after MM visually. PTC is required. If there is - in this case are optional. Geographically, the scenario FT and 9D match 100%, as shown in the video Youtube. Consequently, the heated debate is about the number of angels on the tip of the needle. With regard to restrictions on a roll for a given height, we can see that the airport Kai Tak was built by no means based on Soviet aircraft, GMP and RLE. Looking at what laid the banks foreign pilots during approach to Kai Tak, we can assume that their types are the limits less stringent.
− slyalikov,
13 years ago,
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For all of the armed forces with any kind of call a general requirement are the criteria for a stabilized approach! They are very similar for all Sun For you (and all) geographic reference point is marker with a distance to end at Fly Tampa more. Thus, to meet these criteria in the Fly Tampa much easier, if not - there is no difficulty. PS there are banks who are sometimes laid - it does not matter, let it be upside down. Has meaning only the right thing made entry into the Kai-Tak is no frills does not require in principle. What, exactly, and can be seen in viideo.
− FireFly,
13 years ago,
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close their already-havalniki za.roty!
− Zorgair,
13 years ago,
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And I'm interested to read. You're just sober?
− madara-exgta,
13 years ago,
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Dear not zadrot (Sorge) when you expect from a new video? Today 23:00 by mos. wait!
− vitaminarado,
13 years ago,
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FireFly, about which marker you say? If the pro NDB RW, then it is already in the area of visual maneuvering and maneuvering the construction is not necessarily to use it. For the visual approach, and you know it better than me, one criterion - the position of Sun with respect to visually observed the runway. Consequently, the marker can not in this case be a "starting point" because the maneuver is not built on it. Criteria as "correct" performance visual approach is very, very fuzzy and lie rather in the "Flight of religion." Regarding the restrictions will not argue, because I have no figures before his eyes. Naidu - Fill another.
− slyalikov,
13 years ago,
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Talked, Balakaev, she sat down to weep ... http://s002.radikal.ru/i197/1107/39/0ed8e723b5cb.jpg 1. The span of the marker is the beginning of the visual approach. 2. Any entry, including visual, must first meet the criteria for a balanced approach. And what you wrote, it can be viewed here: http://www.avsim.su/f/razbor-poletov-ocenite-moy-polet-103/ekstrennaya-posadka-tu-154-mv-rostove-xrro- 39249.html
− FireFly,
13 years ago,
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FireFly, I'm not in vain asked him what you mean by a marker. I talked about NDB RW. Obviously, you're talking about the Middle Marker. So after he begins visual approach, it is marked on the chart that you have submitted. Do you think that the script FT Middle Marker placed incorrectly? Or NDB RW? Links to some records do not give me, I still will not watch.
− slyalikov,
13 years ago,
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I'm not saying anything. The dispute began with the fact that Gennn began to tell as there right to fly and has the experience and say dany visit clipped on the right. To which he received the answer that here he has not yet flown. He flew in effect elsewhere. In general, all
− FireFly,
13 years ago,
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Felix! The dispute began here because of you nothing. Geography and the proportion of a script are the same. Glide slope is the same. Marker in Tampa is on, and to hell with him. What's the difference? Complete rotation around the marker over, go around with a roll over the masts of about 15 and come out to the band. Fundamental difference between the scenarios, there is no (except graphics). Because of what you have raised some noise? As if your child hurt.
− Gennn,
13 years ago,
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I sublet it sound? It is you with tips raised a fuss. Uneven and there glidepath. If you stay at the boarding rate, then in the FT IGS is closer, so the point with the same koordiinatami in FT will be passed below. Let's take the case. You take the script 9dragons, TU-154 and implement it yours, then because of what went argument: "If a complete rotation, would start a little later (after the token ring longer), it would be ideal, along the path." And if something does not work, then do come and describe why
− FireFly,
13 years ago,
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FireFly, so what about calling in Stonecutters? There lokalayzer not used at all, and I personally love this particular setting. Is there a difference in the performance of this approach in scenarios from the FT and the 9D?
− slyalikov,
13 years ago,
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Give the scheme, see.
− FireFly,
13 years ago,
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I thought you have. I do not know how to spread to blame.
− slyalikov,
13 years ago,
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This VHHX?
− FireFly,
13 years ago,
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aha!
− Ил-76,
13 years ago,
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Well, throw someone.
− FireFly,
13 years ago,
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http://hk.vatsea.net/airports/VHHX_AR.pdf Pages 4 and 5.
− slyalikov,
13 years ago,
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9Dragons Kai-Tak. After the end of the signal roll 13-15 and perfectly suited to the runway flying directly over the mast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOmfAc--lLM
− Gennn,
13 years ago,
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Neee:) The rate of the flaps 250 and 45 does not roll:)
− FireFly,
13 years ago,
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:))) Okay! I'll try to 36/270. I think that on this trajectory does not change much. The author went with a roll of 8-14, ie plaaavnenko dovorachivat. Felix, the question on the non-controversial video - the author has gone perfectly. All very much in perdelah, smoothly and precisely. Just in the FT if the whole complete rotation to do with a roll of 14-15, and at the same time to enter the lane, you have to pass 2-3 seconds after the marker. And 9D in exactly after the call. All too well succeed. Even labeled is not necessary, roll 15, and you clearly have the band:)
− Gennn,
13 years ago,
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270 km plus 10 km required during the passage in the bank. And so, again a violation of turns. At least in this Kulp I mentioned.
− AndreY_UATG,
13 years ago,
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Well if Kulp stated, then it is understandable why such a fervent defense:)
− Gennn,
13 years ago,
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And you wanted to get rid of 70 tons of weight and the flaps 45? :) So my grandmother would have landed:)
− FireFly,
13 years ago,
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Prompt please where to download a carcass with a ponel??
− igorzagorulko,
13 years ago,
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http://files.protu-154.net/ Version 2.02, Update to version 2.03 from version 2.02. Some devices increased independently for themselves, for better readability.
− AndreY_UATG,
13 years ago,
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Thank you!
− igorzagorulko,
13 years ago,
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PS In my opinion, touched the right wing of the two houses
− Vladimir_76,
13 years ago,
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If you need more substantial proof video from the street, I'll post it? But the screen http://s014.radikal.ru/i328/1107/93/2b450f0aa3e5.jpg
− AndreY_UATG,
13 years ago,
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All exactly close
− q4dez,
13 years ago,
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Landing liked, but that's planting rate is not set (
− Desant37,
13 years ago,
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eprst
− Leonidos,
13 years ago,
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We ABCDEF!
− Ил-76,
13 years ago,
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Panel horror. And the setting is much more to the right scheme.
− штурмовик,
13 years ago,
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Stormtrooper, I just do not understand, and with it a "rate my flight" your score for the panel. As for the instruments I already unsubscribed below. Yes, and they are easier to read in a (larger) form - for those who understands this. Instruments are cleaned with two clicks of the mouse. As for the "sunset FOR MANY right" issue is moot, and you might - not appreciating landing to join the discussion if you do read the discussion below and watch screens.
− AndreY_UATG,
13 years ago,
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