tu-154M landing at Tolmachevo airport - Debriefing (Check my flight)

tu-154M landing at Tolmachevo airport | Rating: 3.1!

Debriefing (Check my flight)

Instrumental in setting Tolmachevo. Please forgive some of the brakes and quality - the video card a little proposes.

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→ Date: 17 years ago (27.05.2009 03:28)

→ Author: Muzzy

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Novichek? The first landing? Do not judge strictly? Guys, my dear, I f you keep the conscience! Well, you read 5 pages RLE - as flush as the climb, as the fly on-line, as the decline and how to approach. I'm not kidding - this is actually 5-6 pages. But the result you are surprised! Specifically, this visit was a flagrant violation that collapsed the entire entry. Maximum speed with flaps 45 * - 300 km / h. By the fact of 345-350. Result - rough landing. Try the same call, but at a speed of 265-275 (depending on the masses in more detail in the RLE). Score is not set, because it makes no sense. − maxmik, 17 years ago, #

Learn RјR°S‚S‡R°SЃS‚SЊ! − Kesson, 17 years ago, #

Personal achievement type I plant PT TU-154M of RLE "in doubt, and it is unlikely that it will give a medal ... I can chocolate .. − Muzzy, 17 years ago, #

Paksi povyletali have teeth of jaws:) − GeK397, 17 years ago, #

HC. koolegi, you will not wonder what percentage of video clips are Tu-154? I am almost sure that> 50%! And how many could really simmerov normal (with all parameters and procedures) to put this machine (model PT I mean)? Units! And the situation does not think change will not change, then who is drawn to the same maxmik? That's conclusions (including orgvyvody). − hawkwings, 17 years ago, #

You do not do all the same? The main thing is that man was good:))) − iuuBB00iss, 17 years ago, #

Of the conclusions I would just like to remind the proposals made by the same simmerami. For a truly sophisticated NEarkadnogo aircraft as PT Tu-154 should be something like the Commission to preview the video with the PT Tu-154. The website PT. Only to get "good" of the commission can lay videometrialy even though here in yutube. Very soon, the very existence of the certificate issued by PT, come into vogue, and will add. incentive to take up this machine. − hawkwings, 17 years ago, #

There is this element of truth, but where the warranty is indeed an objective assessment? Qualification in history is not good to drive. − duna, 17 years ago, #

Can not "reinvent the wheel", right? The purpose of this section, as I understand it, is to improve the skills of virtual pilots. If so, then open the terrible secrets - at a forum PT is a special section devoted to training - flight training course. It starts with learning to "B2", then "M". Analysis of the flight based on an explanation of Flight Recorder, and not "RѕR±R°R»RґRµRЅRЅS‹S… foreign species." Want to have been "in an adult, you go. And here, indeed, it is possible to evaluate only the artistic dimension of a clip, but no flight technique (well, at the very very serious error to specify). − maxmik, 17 years ago, #

Good Friday to raise the status of untouchable relics ... you really just ... T-shirt, but remember to whom it ... "First Friday, then his wife ...". I pity you if you are already fairly ... − fly-max, 17 years ago, #

airplane really well and is real. But about his wife - pure lie. A pity there who do not believe it is appropriate - a house of tears here with us or what? − xxxxxx, 17 years ago, #

Ребят, вы уж плз разберитесь сами, что вам больше надо - "обалденные внешние полеты" (т.е. "аркада"), или полеты (как вы сами говорите) по "взрослому". Особенно это касается т. maxmik'a, который похоже готов поставить пятерку и поменять в пять минут правильные по сути свои же критицизмы. Maxmik - не злись!!! Я знаю про курсы, а предложение, т.е. велосипед "изобрел" по моему firefly, мнение которого я с удовольствием и привел. Я собственно к осмыслению проблемы вас всех и призывал. И не надо УВОДИТЬ разговор в сторону каких-то там футболок с надписью "первым делом самолеты, ну а..." ит.д. Вот это уже точно не по взрослому получается! Поэтому, если Вы не видите этой проблемы или находите ее формулировку не адекватной, то так и говорите, четко, по-взрослому ;)))))))). − hawkwings, 17 years ago, #

well ... for an adult ... The preferred drochit to your fr ... Come? Only one in the beginning gave the Council, as we have done all the others just went to shit ... Your school has not been in childhood? Or you are a teacher, too, when you make mistakes just sral from all sides? Or he started to tell how to solve the task correctly? − fly-max, 17 years ago, #

Can someone "PT first, then his wife, and our PT relic indeed, as he left Real in the summer? Well max 5 years and it remains only for us! And Nada pity. − duna, 17 years ago, #

2 fly-max, you used the slang, which added nothing kaksatelno indeed talk, but as x-rays highlight the essence, use this jargon. What, though, sadly! − hawkwings, 17 years ago, #

Phaha, rzhu with membera. And what is that one can plant? You too zatsiklen and talking about it as genocide, at least the diagnosis. I learned you RLE, well put - life success? Only tries, if the cabin is still a point mode-mode? Muzzy summer at its pleasure. Sooner or later, will fly under the regulations, the model because it is made. Do not strain. All Okay. − iuuBB00iss, 17 years ago, #

my essence ... that what I did for the community ... but not in that and as I say ... in you I see one ... "let's RSR !!!"... and would like to "see that you do not ... like this ... and be super !"... − fly-max, 17 years ago, #

fly-max, and that your "community" to respond? Poseur! Your mistake is that why you do not kerf in the heart of the dispute, and began to free (as North Korea) to apply the techniques in whom you suspect a priori buddy! As a minimum, an outrage. − hawkwings, 17 years ago, #

I suspect you do not ... I am sure all the hundred;) Rather than me now try to prove something (why? tion is all clear to me ...), better to the young pilot explained and demonstrated that not so ... I would like this done, if he saw md11 landing at which I thought would not be true ... − fly-max, 17 years ago, #

be better explained to the young pilot I would like this done, if he saw md11 landing at which I thought would not be correct .. Yeah, but how many of you enjoyed this avtolendom your MD and other arkadnikah? Specifically abused! And then speak about the benefits of "strong" landing on the concrete! A? Not sure? This is where "grow legs"! And your local support (if dazhei be accepted) nichegoshenki mentioned in my power will not change! As for example N "dolbokrafterov" (from "dolbani of concrete to craft") will remain. And tomorrow will be (n + k + l +1)-th dolbokrafter! Despite your (as you say) efforts. Is the systems response "community" or the best part. And it must first determine that it is dearer - arcade, or functionality, so that it is desirable for the rules of flying. That's the problem! Of course, Ali is not? − hawkwings, 17 years ago, #

THIS GAME! OCHNIS! MOTHER! RECOVERY! What is the reaction of a community??? )))) WHAT DO TALKING general???? The guy played the game ... not how to play it you???? AT ITS Number EBTI! )))))))))))))))))))))))))))) − fly-max, 17 years ago, #

threat! About avtolend ... Recalls ... about the eternal question of Americans' you the truth bears on the streets go? " − fly-max, 17 years ago, #

Well, now I understand everything. Well, well! Immediately would say about their preferences, and only then with your "young pilot, which is something they need to explain." It's the game! He, the pilot, and so all the deal HOW TO PLAY, Do not you think? Only DC is ... slightly more than a game. Likewise: Playing at home PT with themselves after work as you wish, though betonku smash him to pieces and let this bubble. But VYKLADYVANIE site here SUCH withdrawal buhih "movie - the act of targeting of titanic team of PT. This is not only my position, and now this moment, please bear in mind. − hawkwings, 17 years ago, #

not speak for all:) − fly-max, 17 years ago, #

Funny there was a discussion. Oddly, that was not previously started. :) Hawkwings, I am about the "mockery" is not quite agree. Rather well, it all depends on the objectives that the author (in this case I am not talking about the Muzzy) poses in front of you. If he wants to "learn", but does not realize that it's quite long and difficult process - it is one thing. If you expect that "the public ahnet of the beauties of Shem, but relentlessly plane drops on concrete, then I agree - a" mockery. " These videos are absolutely neinformativny to the public, for unclear what the author credit. − maxmik, 17 years ago, #

2hawkwings, maxmik: Files with rank over time are removed ... Do not like it - put an assessment of the entire love ... IMHO Actually, why would not be kinder to people and explain everything in a human, regardless of their level of training? Tired of explaining? So do not write and did not comment, as none of you are not forced to do. So already, excuse me, obosrali poor Muzzy ... It is already understood that should read RLE still 96 times 2fly-max: Just my thoughts expressed. +100500))) − smart32, 17 years ago, #

2 smart32: Something I did not understand you. Am I in the first comments are not "in a human" explained what the main problem? Or, I should have been without obsneny vlupit "count" and the case to the end? Once again I ask the same question - what the objectives pursued distinguished Muzzy, vykladyvaya this video in the "Analysis of Flight (Rate my flight)? He appreciated that the techniques of piloting or foreign species? If the first, then I think everything has already been explained. If the second, he was simply wrong section. − maxmik, 17 years ago, #

There is, and what work. − duna, 17 years ago, #

ghjdthrf − susanin, 17 years ago, #

Zhestkovata posadochka, in general, normal. Trains more and more + RјR°S‚S‡R°SЃS‚SЊ TU-154 M-pochityvayte and will be happy))) − Mishik2k, 17 years ago, #

Errors heap, teach RLE, try more, learn RLE, try another. +1 That does not kill, and 2 − bodycom, 17 years ago, #

Pressure-HZK-fold. Zadatchik PB-HZG or two. Removing-HZO-three. Glidepath-HZG-four. HZK-speed or five. Vertical ... overload-HZZ) Video .. panel HZP))) Neoshen something voshem. − DIREKTOR, 17 years ago, #

In a theme developed! Guys! The authors spread their videos here, have different goals. Someone just recently put the symposium, has been learned and laid out one of the first, yet clumsy landings on a complex whole bird as an individual achievement (remember yourself when you first got to like this band). But we all fly, and why do not stremno put it on a general review. Someone might feel that doing something wrong and spread to land (without RЅR°S„RyoRі music) to the public to assess its technical implementation, and for individual councils (but not abuse). In some cases (such as in this), that would indicate serious puncture, do not need any decoding (unless of course there is a view of the panel). Someone has assembled a wonderful clip with meaning, with a music overlay, and this video represents the only artistic interest there would be in the landing did not attend (eg aircraft and dream dreams "). And each video, you can put a fair assessment taking into account the objective with which it is made. Bazarov is not, if the author of the video recorded on avsime and flying for several years, but not learned to sit properly and sends the still video sloppy landings to "zatsenit" Only this, and certainly deserves serious RєRѕRјRµRЅS‚RѕRІ and low valuation. And the author of this video on avsime 2.5 years and a landing .... and not apologized for the quality of planting, and for the quality of the video. He either sits symposium once a month, or ... only 2. − Gennn, 17 years ago, #

Yes a mistake, probably 2 meters / sec! Here are his mistakes! Flaps to 45 degrees can produce at a speed of 300 and below kroynyak.! Error first! or last! second! Flaps in 36, you can produce at a speed of 330, and at 15, -410, and he has 36 already on the velocity of 400 released! At 45 * it at the speed of 350 released! And flew to the landing almost - it is not normal, the liner could collapse . And for trifles, lamps, planting where ?!!))) − Vetal__, 17 years ago, #

Well! On the topic! Well headlights say something produced and incorporated. And at the altimeter chevo? Only RV. A "Turn 63" long is included? The "far" if it would be useful. Yes, and on the "far" at 350 km / h in this configuration an additional gas such as redundant. So that the RLE and the PSC (with both sides) pochityvat need. − Gennn, 17 years ago, #

)) accurately, I watched on vneshke, and in the cabin had not, but all the same mistakes a lot!))) − Vetal__, 17 years ago, #

And intertseptory to izgotovku could include that they are not just used for braking, but also went up. Yes and glidepath could go to the AP, the more so as all-inclusive, have a current green knapka press. So planting rate 72 exhibit. Who esho chevo noticed? − Gennn, 17 years ago, #

Main - so with flaps))), it is precisely that rle do not know, and could destroy the aircraft, at such speeds to produce the wing flaps and not to rle. RLE is not a hint and then that the plane could withstand the "pain" if he published the 45 flaps to 45 degrees, it is a risk factor, and he was already working as a pilot test!-Laden! but 45 to 350 skorosi this limit, please! in the rle of 45 can produce 300-280 − Vetal__, 17 years ago, #

And flaps at 45, he issued a 400km. After this speed start to drop to 350 that it has begun to compensate for the addition of gas. − Gennn, 17 years ago, #

45 can be at speeds below 300 produce only! − Vetal__, 17 years ago, #

I thought the people here live, sick air, and is that patients on the head. Do you think that if you know how to plant a PT-154, respecting the RLE, it is worthy of great admiration?? And this "skill" can be proud of? With all due respect to Andrey, PT team and their amazing creation, I am sure that the trainer can not teach fly Tu-154M. It may help to understand the interaction of flight control systems, navigation, electrical, engines, can simulate different situations, etc. .. R’RѕR±S‰RµRј this is the task of simulation. But he did not teach pilots to fly! You can learn to plant at least RLE and blindfolded as the fuzz, but I am willing to bet if you're not a real pilot TU, if you will be asked to fly and put this TOU, you will apply in the pants, not yet entering the cabin! Of course, if your free time allows you to fly 12 hours a day every day Sime from year to year and to improve the "skills" I am very happy for you, but I have a few other priorities in life. And I never thought that the long-term registration avsim, it must be experienced pilot ... − Muzzy, 17 years ago, #

If this applies to Fri ... then: 1. be sober, 2. run wife, 3. povyazhi green bandanas on the head with the words "so come with me strength petoydov, 4. RLE read first time, 5. RLE read a second time, ..., 99. Read RLE 95y times 100. You can download the symbol and select a TU-154, but NOT run !!!!, 101. Read RLE 96y times ... − fly-max, 17 years ago, #

You posted your flight to the "Analysis of Flight (Rate my flight)." He disassembled, evaluated, and some "especially vumnyya back and gave advice how to correct errors. How you unhappy? Evaluation of the quality of flight? Or low artistic taste "hudsoveta? To spread their clips to the "simulators" and the evaluation criteria would have otherwise. We are all together admired beautiful species and original story. And in this section is, IMHO, is playing the latest role. − maxmik, 17 years ago, #

2 fly-max: Judging by your comments, start your engines for the PT has not been able to? Otherwise, I do not understand your animosity towards this model ... − maxmik, 17 years ago, #

I have no words about the model may say:) I'm about idolopoklonikov then crucify))) about PT ... set ... run ... off ... sat ... nice ... not mine ... I do not like ... 154y ;) − fly-max, 17 years ago, #

Well this explains a lot. Forcing millions will not. :) − maxmik, 17 years ago, #

For sho though it flew) − Mockut, 17 years ago, #

Plavno planted, I think a small flight. This airplane, I am sure this guy planted TO flawlessly. A symposium here. − Naletchik, 17 years ago, #

RЅRyoS‡Rµ not smooth! , Ve-al skorosi at 4-5 meters per second in the land of not leveling! 50-50 chance that the plane would not have collapsed. − Vetal__, 17 years ago, #

and be ... for trying * − mozila, 17 years ago, #

Yes there seems to be a FAC 54's together with 30 years experience ... − Muzzy, 17 years ago, #

Strange comment. You want to have your flight appreciated. This is it, and appreciated. Indeed, I even hinted to you what a mistake. Corrected and the assessment will be completely different. − maxmik, 17 years ago, #

A point in the evaluation of these same newcomers? You just show the error, so take note and correct. And so recklessly put at Sime any aircraft, but the fact is right and beautiful! − barsykoff, 17 years ago, #

Nea ... Rather, a kindergarten, as usual! Muzzy, vzdohnite full breast, and feel free. Your opponent, maxmik, just said, quote: "And here, indeed, it is possible to evaluate only the artistic dimension of a clip, but no EQUIPMENT Pilot" (emphasis added, hawkwings). You can now safely poherit his first post! − hawkwings, 17 years ago, #

Yes you can, and all subsequent poherit ... Once again our idea - if the purpose of this section "Analysis of Flight", I believe that the author expects a positive assessment of implementation of the technology of flight. I expressed my opinion and made recommendations how to improve this technique. If the recommendations in this section do not need, but my personal opinion is of a community is a great annoyance, I wish you all a pleasant view the next "shYdEvra, which not long to wait. − maxmik, 17 years ago, #

Вот именно Ваши рекомендации и есть то ценное, что есть во всех Ваших комментариях.Я абсолютно, на все 100% разделяю именно эти первые комментарии. Лучше не напишешь! Но зачем Вы стали здесь же умалять их в своих последующих постах? Зачем Вы на ходу стали перестраивать критерии? Неужели Вы не видите, что сами же девальвировали (полагаю что невольно) свою СПРАВЕДЛИВУЮ оценку? Удивительно! Или и здесь Вы согласны с неразобравшимся в сути вопроса fly-max'ом? − hawkwings, 17 years ago, #

Sorry, but I do not understand what you mean? How do I "rebuilt the criteria? I just said that only one video can not fully evaluate the flight. Such gross violations, as in this video (catastrophically inflated rate), shows the naked eye. But there are a whole heap of parameters that must also be evaluated. Without the decryption that is not done, and (decryption) is not spread. What remains? It remains to evaluate the "artistry" and point to the very very grave mistake. That is what I did. A pro KULP I referred only to those who want to "polish" their skills. And where is this "adjustment criteria? − maxmik, 17 years ago, #

I've left a bunch of posts, it's time to tie, only give you a response as to the Smart here interlocutor. You have already rated the quality of flight (actually neud.) And for gross violations. This is sufficient to assess the flight on Tu-154 on Fri CRITERIA PT (and the other for this aircraft can not be). Art component in this case - as it can in general when it NEUD.! You understand me? Well, would you be evaluated on bird flight, where the really hard-to-face (but not for the firefly!!!) Identify pilot error, then the hud. background can indeed act as an extra. factor. But not in this case (neud. already shipped)! If people can not do (that would be issued to the person neeksperta) to assess the quality of piloting a model for PT, then talk about the "artistic" is nothing more than a leisurely chit-chat this neeksperta. A general problem is that these "neudov" really put a lot, take a look ... − hawkwings, 17 years ago, #

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And why not issued with the landing flaps at 45? Trainers and RLE to help. Will the desire and patience to do all this, the result will be. Good luck − LOKOPhil, 17 years ago, #

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