The role of aviation in the aftermath of the accident at Unit 4 of the Chernobyl NPP
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The fond memory these people for life! Many of them did not know what went on. Thank you! RAID74, 15 years ago, #
Many are already living in a no. The fond memory. isc, 15 years ago, #
April 26, 1925 anniversary of the accident. just read the memoirs Nikolai Andreyevich Volkozuba, Senior Inspector, Air Force pilots of the Kiev military district, a military sniper pilot, a colonel, the master of sports of the helicopter works and in particular about getting to the sand and boron, and the first measurements of reactor. Тюменский, 15 years ago, #
Incidentally helicopter still in the initial stretch had dosimeters and knew about the radiation. But orders are orders Тюменский, 15 years ago, #
of radiation, then many people knew. All the same, as already before this vigorous bombs were tested. But about radiation sickness while Old does not drain. Few people knew what the consequences are waiting for them from the exposure (I'm not saying that everything is not known). Moreover - Personal dosimeters did not show a dose. They had a display - the yellow and red. So long ago I read somewhere the memories of soldiers who participated in the liquidation - the commanders of individual sensors are selected so that there was no panic. Sensors were only for the liquidators on the roof - which ran for 2-3 minutes with bags. Those who probe after 5-10 walker becomes red, sent from the roof, and were replaced by a new "victim". I write, but his murazhki the skin ... RAID74, 15 years ago, #
If you scoop no one spared. arseniy5, 15 years ago, #
Think if this happen (God forbid of course) now, then someone will feel sorry for? Send soldiers, and those are exactly the same rake as this shit shoveled those names are different, the essence is - Russia. pro100gamer, 15 years ago, #
pro100gamer - see the news about Japan? Now we have so many soldiers there. Will send all, or will be volunteers living in the contaminated region and experiencing their own land. RAID74, 15 years ago, #
No did not watch the first few days watching, then scored to be honest. pro100gamer, 15 years ago, #
While the soldiers he is a soldier, do not remember who said: "The soldier is a universal gag holes in all states" (c) pro100gamer, 15 years ago, #
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How interesting, "after the fight" to write off all the scoop? Perhaps the opinion of pro100gamera worth "score" on all or send for a block robots, which, let me say there is still no (able to do all the dirty work). When such an event occurs, there can be no smearing his cheeks humane snot - and any komnadir knows it. And is obliged to accept inconvenient for "humanity" solutions: "It is Well what killed 100 people, ay-ay-ay!" And the fact that these 100 people have saved millions, and not only man but nature is somehow not considered. And Fokusime now is the same - to go to fight people who cherish their homeland, not some out there talking about the possibility of dying - and if you think that they do not understand - are you naive people ... Igor Goncharov, 15 years ago, #
Rushed ... pro100gamer, 15 years ago, #
here as in a plane crash is an event horizon. One event is irreducible to a catastrophe. notorious set of circumstances (technique + human factor) Тюменский, 15 years ago, #
The Chernobyl kind of like - just chelfaktor was. There was no proper "foolproof" - a little while to put it mildly, knew about nuclear power plants. I hope the lesson learned in our nuclear industry lard points. In Fukushima, incidentally, also chelfaktor guilty. Yes, the station itself sustained impact of elements on the cheers (THIS IS NINE POINTS shaking for a moment !!!). And, ahem, got burned because of the fact that he refused all (and only) system is cooled from the tsunami. When designing a simple little figured out (although 70 were already powerful (relatively) com) the possibility of such a tsunami (ugu.. And this is one of the most earthquake-prone regions of the world ... and it's in the country, which is actually "gave" the world itself is the word tsunami). Americans, damn it ... Highly-know-all, the amplitude of their ... TipaGraf, 15 years ago, #
positive reactivity with the introduction of the CPS. Alexandrov himself later admitted this mistake Тюменский, 15 years ago, #
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Sent to the 86-m soldiery not only green. My father is a civil engineer, Lt. stock - would send the "lucky" that he was ill with jaundice - no problems had been granted exemption from the trip. This is the way that "they are eliminated under the muzzles of guns KGB .. By the way, Japan has no KGB, his guns, but the same people go and liquidate. Apparently - there is something higher than "stupid cannibal orders cynical government." And at recess in the domestic lay not down and out psychos, fearing "to disobey the order party and government". TipaGraf, 15 years ago, #
Officers and soldiers very much there. The first Corps of Engineers and GO. Our unit participated in the disaster and what was going on there from the officers know very well, and by the first military profession, I RHBZshnik. I personally was at VNIIEF, Mayak and Novovoronezh. Тюменский, 15 years ago, #
Well, this self-other. So I say sent not only to existing soldiers / officers, but also a deep bench. In principle, now (God forbid !!!), if Th is will be - the graduates of building colleges can draw. TipaGraf, 15 years ago, #
know for sure - in Pripyat students in the department of plant operation were dosimetrists Тюменский, 15 years ago, #
And the students? Especially on the profile specialty? Question for any catastrophic developments in the situation often boils down to what you're able to (specific you are, the decision-making in the development of the situation), using the resources that you have or are able to attract, do anything that would stop such a development or as quickly as possible to cope with the consequences thereof. And only then, post facto, when the rest elements (natural, technological, etc.) when they die, who continues to die, as though it may sound cynical when it becomes clear that restored a normal life, it was then and understand who was right and who is not. And when you need to "close the hole" - once "breed" philosophy. Igor Goncharov, 15 years ago, #
so nobody says anything. just a fact. Тюменский, 15 years ago, #
100%. I do exactly that meant, by the way, saying that - if that will pull relevant professionals to address. Such a situation - this is war. If you left - you call. If you know (and know how) to help - you call yourself, bezsch kicks. So anywhere in the world, not only in dumb scoop. " Here's the real "unreal" example. The film "Armageddon" remember? His final? Well because of all the canons of Hollywood - all had to survive (well, and even more so AMU Bruce Wee.). But no - his screenwriters sent to die. Consciously. Because - such a situation. Because - Armageddon, rather than "Gone With the Wind" or even "King Kong" (although there are mostly killed) .. TipaGraf, 15 years ago, #
Russian is Russian, so we have the most shitty machines, tape recorders, telecom, etc., we do not want to work and still want to have it all, knocking on the KGB and the party is easier, but you must understand that the only way we can make it work will satisfy us a great idea, Now we already do not care Nitsche, we'll just Liquidators for the huge amount of money, but too pack I look smarter and no one sign up for this event, so do not need garbage smack about the supposedly terrible USSR, you are re-processed and you hawala new story. DownSet, 15 years ago, #
Yeah, but somehow foul up now to Japan (as the best) Vladimir_76, 15 years ago, #
DownSet, I disappoint you, but if the blows some crap for my city and this crap will require the efforts of thousands of volunteers and this crap would threaten my family, my wife and daughter - take my word for it - I will go myself, even if I know I shall die. Something like this - pathetic, but true. RAID74, 15 years ago, #
Interestingly, and where here I give up? And why I should do? Che for garbage at all? As they say the flag in your hands, all unfounded and it does get wool, it's easier to send family or blame along with them, and a hero in words is no longer interested. DownSet, 15 years ago, #
Dear DownSet - you are again, sorry, all obsrli and turned on its head. If you simply dump or not to be a hero (in words and in his eyes on his feet - as you like), then do not say FOR ME. Ok? :) Maybe you and will be the liquidator of the huge amount of money (which I doubt - life is more precious than money). But here I am - not like you, so - should not all be equated under his comb. Sincerely. RAID74, 15 years ago, #
May God grant them good health, sorry for that many no longer alive. sanechek, 15 years ago, #
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Five to you for a movie! A terrible disaster-this case, the most insulting, when they occur on the sloppiness someone (never forget the counters in the main square, that's terrible, not touch, no smell) .. Vladimir_76, 15 years ago, #
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For the movie thanks a lot. But here they are advised in all its glory - "The station gave the first talk." A crew of Late Mi-8 did not even remember. It's a shame. MalasaJ, 15 years ago, #
Dad was there in July 86! In the film, the Soviet era as always lied a bunch of station continues to live and all that and do not care that half the planet eventually become infected, so the pilots are dead certain! Khapaev radiation hoo, climbed into the thick ... Dad there and watched telly on the news pop-accident eliminated, there is no radiation, all in chocolate Tipo ... then classify all the KGB at all, but right now we Fukushima, "Chernobl on steroids" has a 200 km all dirtied and it's only the beginning. .. Zorgair, 15 years ago, #
In the West, while also dofiga what people hide from - the time is there. And our liquidators just doing their job - regardless of zomboyaschik those years. By the way, they were for, I believe such a Soviet coverage of the whole operation - to relatives not to worry - very much doubt that the mothers, wives and children of the liquidators of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant being a thousand and miles in those days, only slightly affected purely from the nerves if not more than some of the liquidators who are "barely sniffed only" radiation, and their relatives caught the real heart attacks with stroke - without any relnoy radiation near them. TipaGraf, 15 years ago, #
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TipaGraf, they for?? Yes, the liquidators were sent there as a slave. power and their desire to not ask. And no one then thought about the consequences. UHMA, 15 years ago, #
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They COVERAGE FOR SUCH ELIMINATION while in the program "Time". And in regard to slavery ... Can you question - and whose slaves the current liquidators to Fukushima? Did the KGB? Or are they morons? Or do they get paid for it lard greens per hour? TipaGraf, 15 years ago, #
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That's for sure - this time it was. On the other hand - how much do we get positive after viewing an arbitrary set of programs for the Tiwi? The main motif - everything is bad, "black" (no matter whom) we "zabizhayut" amerikosy (French, Italian, Libyans and other Arabs, depending on the situation and plot) are behind the curve, and only our disinterested government is doing everything for the people. And the streets hodyut killers, rapists, prostitutes under the handle with drug addicts ... Positive, e-my, to educate the generation of "perfect". And by the way, is not far we have come from Soviet-type zomboyaschika, only I did not leave feeling bydlovatosti screen, and you say "information war". However - is offtopic ... Igor Goncharov, 15 years ago, #
TipaGraf + lot. UHMA - you probably do not know much. At a time when the accident occurred at Chernobyl, let me remind you were already in the past: Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and now - ispytyniya and not one of nuclear weapons of different formats, so that the knowledge is once again to think about. And about understanding the consequences. But even all of the available at least for one, though to date knowledge does not replace the need to solve the problem, or at least its location. Who do you think it should do? Slaves? Igor Goncharov, 15 years ago, #
That's why he and zomboyaschik. Beyond the hill the TV is not better, and even more boring and stupid (I'm on their obschegosovskom TV, it is clear that special channels Many professional). Our first channel, incidentally, will give a head start on their special projects (not news, essesno, and though ...) any such First in AZ Europe, not to mention all sorts of Poland. TipaGraf, 15 years ago, #
Yes, I remember that expression while "voluntary-compulsory" trip, we have from the factory many forcibly sent back, thank God I was kid back then, not particularly want to ask or not, it was terrible then, it was a disaster throughout the country. And again, if not action taken by force, who would agree! We are not Japanese, we are just people who want to live, now very worried about Japan, we are also experienced this and they have not let God be the worst yet to come, so keep them in a god. DownSet, 15 years ago, #
Okay so I'll write the labor force. So clearly. I did not mention the word slave, is an abbreviation of the word work UHMA, 15 years ago, #
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