Destruction of a legend on whether the plane will fly with the conveyor. I do not agree with the authors, but certainly as it is
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Well, moron! The plane took off with a screw and wings, and not their stupid tape! korsar795, 16 years ago, #
And who says the opposite? DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
They are happy that the plane took off, he would not strip this off! korsar795, 16 years ago, #
They wanted to find out whether the plane will fly _nesmotrya_ on a conveyor belt, moving towards. The pilot, by the way, strongly doubt it. DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
Course soar! korsar795, 16 years ago, #
But the pilot's face just made stupid pindosskuyu! Neither fig he had no doubt, otherwise why in the bolt he generally sits in the cockpit! And if in doubt, he never pilot! Mihail Stepanov, 16 years ago, #
Yes. I took off. But in general this is an old and very famous internet meme, and is still a lot of people did not believe that will fly. DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
Shit)) @ntuan, 16 years ago, #
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ALL who have guided the Dwarf and screaming "stupid idiots" - suggest more look in the mirror! You have one-sided development. Angry at you for it (as fools) sin. What you do not have pleased this time? Simply Be - an entertainment channel - academicians you hard time ... dinsoft, 16 years ago, #
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Prost mi evaluation ninavidim amirikantsif! and ty pridatel! DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
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And you do not stremno ON AMERICAN COMP, the American Sim, on the American servers fly? Or hate selective? )))) PS I am for common sense. Join ... dinsoft, 16 years ago, #
2dinsoft: google "sarcasm":) DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
Yes I understand)))) where once))) dinsoft, 16 years ago, #
About! So I do not understand. Apparently, it's time Hushaby. Go on without me;) DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
(yawn) And yet - what an immortal theme! DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
dinsoft +10 NeoHack, 16 years ago, #
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plane was moved on land and on the condition of the problem - should not. fail. aiRoNe, 16 years ago, #
nonsense wrote aiRoNe, 16 years ago, #
G›G› happens after the holidays :-)) Mihail Stepanov, 16 years ago, #
Not yet gone after the New Year))) Stakan, 16 years ago, #
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For video! For the disputants: the aircraft is always attached to the cannon and fly to the rays Diss. But seriously, the myth is not checked properly. What they have done, suitable for testing the myth with a tablecloth (dergnesh slowly - everything will fall dergnesh quickly - everything will remain on the table). msnvtl, 16 years ago, #
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A look MythBusters, and I know they vseravno physics or not Angelpro, 16 years ago, #
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Pilot somolota very surprised! Dexter, 16 years ago, #
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YANKEE GOU NOM !!))) daewooo, 16 years ago, #
Nome? Or Home? @ntuan, 16 years ago, #
Yankees Go Gnome.))) @ntuan, 16 years ago, #
Hong House shura61, 16 years ago, #
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Pity is not what these Oligophrenic live well in spite of congenital encephalopathy, and what they spend on their "experiments" are grandmothers, so even earn it. KJC, 16 years ago, #
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Oh, this distant and rich pendosyatinka. @ntuan, 16 years ago, #
Why rich clear-they steal oil, and for this great mind is not necessary. And we are poor because they live life to the principles of the planet Plyuk from the movie "Kin-Dza-Dza". KJC, 16 years ago, #
Here on this, the fact that they vrouyut as Ukrainians and other ugliness they freak! Why love them? Pendosy freak! @ntuan, 16 years ago, #
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Guys, sorry, that America is stealing, that story about living stealing, all around us some freaks. Are you for freaks? @ntuan, 16 years ago, #
Are you all clear)) @ntuan, 16 years ago, #
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Sometimes the guys really put all calculated by experiments, but then really hit the mark DUST, 16 years ago, #
... and you know why water is salty, boil faster than freshwater? DED-CHEL, 16 years ago, #
Uel! Oh, Uel! ;) DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
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Konsi +1000! Let me explain for those who do not understand. Those check-in service inspection of the brakes and parking brake on roller skates, and so rollers rotate at a speed of rotation of the wheels because of this machine and stand still!! A rliki size is not a wheel that avtomobilya.Tak physicist who does not know, learn! And here on the video he was moving on this tape and not standing still, I think you even noticed it. Heinkel, 16 years ago, #
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Dear, and that the concept of "speed wheels?" Such thing in physics, no! "There is a" speed "and not skorost.I where you got such a condition problem that would belt speed was equal to the frequency of rotation of the wheel?" This definition is in principle impossible because both the body (chassis and tape) will tend to infinity! question was whether the plane take off from the tape moving in the opposite direction with the speed needed for takeoff samoleta.No here and no brainer that it will. ROCK_AVIA, 16 years ago, #
And your example about the rollers and the car is generally inappropriate. ROCK_AVIA, 16 years ago, #
Speed-count of complete revolutions per unit time, and the speed of rotation is the angular velocity Stakan, 16 years ago, #
This is for anyone explained to you? "Well, since much so, the" angular velocity "depends on the frequency vrascheniya.A definition of" speed "no. ROCK_AVIA, 16 years ago, #
In principle, the frequency and the angular velocity is one and the same, but I explained to those of physics do not fully understand Stakan, 16 years ago, #
Well if you do not go into details, let him be one and the zhe.A general - Video BAYaN.Gde something here in the forums this topic obmusolivalas two years ago and maybe this video est.Esli there who want to fresh up physics - look, do not pozhaleete.Tam various formulas and the laws of physics clearly presented, who is behind opposition to such things and who is against it. ROCK_AVIA, 16 years ago, #
Well, right now, and no formulas sensible person is clear. Even if you logically think and imagine. Jeka_M, 16 years ago, #
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Also my problem is - fly or not fly. Most surprised by the quality of their "canvas" - eager to get under the feet of man! Valerapol, 16 years ago, #
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Neighing of the soul over these idiots and cretins! Aleksandr55, 16 years ago, #
And he's better? Stakan, 16 years ago, #
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The pilot, of course, experienced, understands all the crap ideas and just playing to the camera. Guys come up with plots and earn money. A lot of people in Avsime downloaded file, quite seriously discussing the physics of the process as a result of increasing the rating of the program. Andrei Lavrenov, 16 years ago, #
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5 for the video. As for the pilot: Before the experiment, as mentioned, the pilot believed that the plane did not fly. That's the question: How can such a moron and dropout received a pilot's license? tserg, 16 years ago, #
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In this case, they effectively blunted. Or pretended to. This transfer was a specially made so that the cardan the machine fell and fell into a pit, and this is not the first time been realized, so it was very interesting to me that it would be. And then forgive stupidity. Mihail Stepanov, 16 years ago, #
What's the stupidity of something? DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
The fact that such stupidity (which does not fly because of the conveyor) could only assume the child, but not an adult. Moreover, after a serious person trying to do the "experiment". We have a different transmission from the finger suck, "" Field of Miracles "for example. Dozen years, one twist and tighter hat with a serious face, and nothing, the people of hawala. We also have the entire second channel such. Two peasants, dressed in babulek (flower or whatever), the transfer of full house, Petrossian. Apparently in pendosii also has its own "second" channel :-)))) Mihail Stepanov, 16 years ago, #
Come on, surely never heard of this puzzle? Her train only lazy did not know. DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
I've heard of course, along with tales about the launch aircraft jump leads from each other, from a jet engine, etc. In addition to all - dupe :-))) Mihail Stepanov, 16 years ago, #
They still had an interesting legend on which it was said that after a manual start engine aircraft, spinning the propeller, the aircraft rolled over and made the cutting of standing in front of the plane Stakan, 16 years ago, #
And they proved it! ridetoglory, 16 years ago, #
Videos that action-in the studio :-)) Mihail Stepanov, 16 years ago, #
Season 3, 8 series (or Issue 45) DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
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However, surprise ..... : _) micharu, 16 years ago, #
for babusheg domohozyaeg blevotina.Ostalnym just start neighing of idiocy pendosof. ALLEGG, 16 years ago, #
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You see what we are smart! Pendosy, obtuse all, only I and a handful of the same dibiloff smart. Buy 40 meters tarpaulin, trailer UAZ, find Wilga 35, experience the myth, write it, put here, but we porzhem over you! Crap all they can, and move the brain that you hardly have can not! Stakan, 16 years ago, #
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for babusheg domohozyaeg - yes, blevotina.Ostalnym just start neighing of idiocy ALLEGGof! DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
2 stakan: Oh, that's it for? That is, if the dough is - then you're clever. But no - you fool. Well, of course. Britney smarter Academician Sakharov! Well, well. We know this worldview. If you can not loot 40 meters tarpaulin, and 4 kilometers to buy and Boeing. And Cho's next? tserg, 16 years ago, #
If you buy 4 km tarpaulin and Boeing, then the person who did it would be a fool with Boeing and 4mya miles of canvas, although he could buy a pair of Embraer and hire pilotoa, hehe. Stakan, 16 years ago, #
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If you pull the canvas twice as fast, just the wheels fall off before the plane took off. Cloth does not create lift, and increases the speed of rotation of the wheels. A zadachka was-would be interesting if a screw-somehow was tied in with the wheels (the faster turning the wheel, the faster the spinning propeller). Here one could-be experimenting. A channel is interesting. Sometimes quite funny topic guys are trying. I looked with pleasure. Gennn, 16 years ago, #
Yeah, of course. Cloth survive, and the wheels always fall off! After painting done on the conscience, and wheels for aircraft anyhow! DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
All I did was only because of this: ... The canvas does not create lift, and increases the speed of rotation of the wheels. Gennn, 16 years ago, #
Well, there are idiots who think that creates? Increasing the speed does not increase the force of rolling friction, so the canvas does not interfere with the aircraft to be dispersed - calmly, on the air! - And fly. DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
Agree. Not with the first and the second:) Gennn, 16 years ago, #
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Wow, I threw a minus! Therefore, at least one idiot believes that under the wheels of a moving blade creates lift force! DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
they had to change a little bit of experience, it would be interesting to put my fishing rod in the wind agromadnuyu pipe, I mean "air carrier")), and a good blow DAR, 16 years ago, #
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judging by the screenshot they have wasted in front of the aircraft))) DAR, 16 years ago, #
And how do you think then there are the myths for their transfer:) LainerRRW, 16 years ago, #
general .. if you think the carrier really is not able to equalize the speed and the plane will not be alone. "There is only a matter trasportera length and engine power. that in this case and shows That's if only they took the TU154 for experience, then they would have to sweat :-) DUST, 16 years ago, #
This is what the thickness of the sheet should take?? A break up what? Accelerator powder? Stakan, 16 years ago, #
And because everyone is screaming ????? Well children straight! .. SkyWorker, 16 years ago, #
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Avsim ... RaserX, 16 years ago, #
Sasha, you RѕS‚R¶RµRі Ng! )) Or a gift for Christmas? =) Visual, 16 years ago, #
Dima, Well, where are you going missing koordinalno? NG with you! and with the upcoming holidays! DUST, 16 years ago, #
Sash, I'll soon be appearing at all!:) Visual, 16 years ago, #
Selling garage ... КурсМП, 16 years ago, #
That's what? Stakan, 16 years ago, #
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This material is an urgent need to pass Michal Mihalich, he meets and education (MAI), and physics at 5 knows, and he will be able to pripodat with yumorkom, uttered his legendary - "Well, stupid." :) Z.Y. Do we really need to be so ...., to the head had such "great" idea? ... greben, 16 years ago, #
He Mikhail Nikolayevich, if you mean Zadornov))) SkyWorker, 16 years ago, #
Sorry, forgot. Thank you for popravochku. Z.Y. I wonder how all the different ways to see the same thing too:) greben, 16 years ago, #
Morons! Димсон, 16 years ago, #
Who better, they have full of good stories Stakan, 16 years ago, #
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E, transfer and Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman not trozhte. They are good guys. Only writers sometimes fig scripts written and myths retarded choose. Jeka_M, 16 years ago, #
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One of the most stupid series of blunt amerikosov 080894, 16 years ago, #
A case of you not stupid? Stakan, 16 years ago, #
Her, just hormones raged. DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
hehe Stakan, 16 years ago, #
I aute, you two probably Petrosyan ridiculous, as many fall 080894, 16 years ago, #
For a look! Also I Garik Kharlamov Stakan, 16 years ago, #
Petrossian? Her, I'm in chess is not strong. But he died long ago. DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
And we will argue, curse and spoil the mood of each other on holidays. I'll often watch the program, but this series really stupid. 080894, 16 years ago, #
And Petrosian died. 080894, 16 years ago, #
Petrosyan, died Aug. 13, 1984 in Moscow. DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
I had the view comedian Yevgeny Petrosyan 080894, 16 years ago, #
Aaa ... I - Tigran Vartan, 9-th World Chess Champion. Well, to each his own. DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
Yes, there is not only aviation aces sedyat, but also physics! :) LainerRRW, 16 years ago, #
And what do you want?? Aviation is always connected with physics! Stakan, 16 years ago, #
This is so ... LainerRRW, 16 years ago, #
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Stupid idiots! Have a feeling that even in primary school secondary schools do not learn! extremal, 16 years ago, #
I'm learning, so pofapal! CCCP-11156, 16 years ago, #
And in general, he go study! Stupid idiots, please forgive me Moder, complete toftologiya! CCCP-11156, 16 years ago, #
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Thank pofapal! CCCP-11156, 16 years ago, #
pervert ekha, 16 years ago, #
ekha +10000 Siriuss, 16 years ago, #
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All right, you do not like? No fucking belt will not prevent the aircraft to fly! DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
1 The main thing an experienced pilot thought the plane could not fly)))) Siriuss, 16 years ago, #
I once argued with the pilot, who claimed the existence of FMS on IL-18 ... Stakan, 16 years ago, #
Siriuss +1. If the pilot thought so - this is fucking pilot. Jeka_M, 16 years ago, #
Logical Stakan, 16 years ago, #
Ha, the main condition of the problem is not met: belt speed is equal to the rate of rotation of the wheel chassis (ie omega * R) konsni, 16 years ago, #
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It is impossible. DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
And make no mistake: the length of tape must be equal to grasp the wheel, then the condition will be fulfilled Stakan, 16 years ago, #
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About! And the tape must be wound on the wheel - then fly together with ribbon! DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
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And what then pull?? Stakan, 16 years ago, #
The best vehicle to pull the plane, then just do not fly))) Siriuss, 16 years ago, #
Soar, but if the cable withstand traction force in an aircraft engine, there is a chance that he or spikiruet on the car, or spikiruet to the ground and will roll the car rattled a tin can, which is tied to the tail of a cat Stakan, 16 years ago, #
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What an experienced pilot? Roughly speaking, the plane pushed away from the air, not on tape. Only spurt may be greater because frictional force in rolling chassis increases. ekha, 16 years ago, #
And what kind of a fishing rod? Stakan, 16 years ago, #
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Plane during the takeoff run 40km / h in the summer before and 40km / h, but back on earth, not only the usual fact that chassis speed 80km / h on the tape. What would this prove the authors of the program?? remskiy, 16 years ago, #
similar to the Czech "Zlin" remskiy, 16 years ago, #
A model name can not?? Stakan, 16 years ago, #
PPC. just ... How then do not say that the bourgeois stupid))) I wonder how much money they have in this experiment vbuhali? ... Siriuss, 16 years ago, #
Power of rolling friction is not schavisit on speed. In Reale even decreases due to bouncing on the bumps. DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
2Siriuss And do you care with this? Stakan, 16 years ago, #
Sirius, and prikin how much they received for this issue! DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
Stakan was just wondering, but do you care with the fact that I am interested in this? TO DrSnake yes, this I do not think))) Siriuss, 16 years ago, #
2 Stakan: This Rans S-6ES/TD Coyote II Summerdream, 16 years ago, #
I even found modelku: http://flightsim.com/kdl.php?f​id=58040 Summerdream, 16 years ago, #
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stupid bourgeois ... probably think that the plane pushes the wheels off the ground, and not the screw from the air. Misterio, 16 years ago, #
Well at least someone taught physics!:) GeK397, 16 years ago, #
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WTF? КурсМП, 16 years ago, #
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Sometimes I watch Mythbusters, and increasingly convinced that the physics are not taught .... GeK397, 16 years ago, #
And you taught? Jethawk, 16 years ago, #
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In this case, the body (the plane) quite heavy, so has davolno high moment of inertia relative to the ground. It was demonstrated just this property. The plane started moving off, and not on the tape, and on the ground as if he had the speed over the air. In other words, he could not fly, because the thrust is created relative to the air, not on earth:) Now if you have wings attached to my car and forced to ride on such a conveyer .... there certainly does not fly:) GeK397, 16 years ago, #
Did not you teach?:-D GeK397, 16 years ago, #
Do not you that. Jethawk, 16 years ago, #
And in MythBusters they popysali to contact rail station and dummy RЅRyoS‡Rѕ was not. We have one such popysal with a pedestrian bridge at the contact wire. Pity relatives. tserg, 16 years ago, #
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Oh pendosov crap:) From their experience I think this experience is not real and crooked, on this plane took off, so it would not cost me think. @ntuan, 16 years ago, #
Privat Antokhina))) We here really think that America is now my fishing rod with a place to start would be, you only need to make a treadmill, and give it the necessary acceleration))) Prikin how great )?!!! A Pilot on si17 (Galaxy which) your enthusiastic otetogo will ... DED-CHEL, 16 years ago, #
OOo seems! Did anyone explain what force will prevent the plane take off? DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
strength of American gullibility) DED-CHEL, 16 years ago, #
I would not be as inclined to obsiraniyu stupid Americans. Just shows that the experience delivered is not clear. It is noticeable that on the ground plane is moving forward, but on the condition of the carrier shall equate speed. That's actually all for ultralights enough, given that the wind could be the front and even the flow of the propeller makes a contribution. DUST, 16 years ago, #
If the aircraft will be in place, it will act as a fan and the flow of air from the propeller slightly gets on the plane wing, and not on the whole plane with both wings, and consequently he did not fly. @ntuan, 16 years ago, #
So I ask - what force will keep it on the spot? DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
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called Toshu on dumplings ... DED-CHEL, 16 years ago, #
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The rope is tied to a fishing rod will keep it in place. DUST, the carrier is not able to equalize the speed. It can increase the speed of rotation of the wheels. 's All. Jeka_M, 16 years ago, #
@ ntuan, the plane will not stand still. Because he pushes the screw from the air. His speed and direction of rotation of the wheels LinkBacks. The wheels are only for support aircraft to the earth's surface and all. Jeka_M, 16 years ago, #
Actually, I was sure that everything here will immediately recognize that it is delusional try and see, but it turns out there is simmery and even "guru" who believe that if the deliver pure experience, the plane did not fly. And you can ask what has been done "unclean"? "DUST, the carrier will not be able to equalize the speed. It can increase the speed of rotation of the wheels. That's all."-The only reasonable grain. KJC, 16 years ago, #
Well, he is repulsed, but I think until the desired speed, he still does not break up! A zachnit not do the desired flow to the wings and he did not fly it will simply move down the sheet slowly or with insufficient speed. @ntuan, 16 years ago, #
"But I think until the desired speed, he still does not break up - argues. I say calmly overclocking, and he was nothing amiss. And I can argue. Jeka_M, 16 years ago, #
I repeat - rolling friction does not depend on the speed, in Reale at higher speed, it decreases due to jump on the hump. Hence, it can not interfere with the aircraft to fly straight line. DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
But did you at least a speed of 150 km / h pull back ,.... what raznitsa.Esli only smoked bearings on the wheels .... screw will push the plane from the air vpered.Konechno if this a cheap roll of toilet paper broke .. . and hooked nose landing .... Pilot would have grown in my eyes four )))))))) Alvol, 16 years ago, #
Where are your arguments? @ntuan, 16 years ago, #
Dwight so you repeat this experience, after having considered everything, right? There will be arguments. @ntuan, 16 years ago, #
Another repeat? Rolling friction is not dependent on the speed. Physics SЂSѓR»RyoS‚. DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
Truly R SѓR»RyoS‚. Physics in aeronautics - a religion. If the Wright brothers did not know the physics - FIGS they built his plane. Jeka_M, 16 years ago, #
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Complete garbage. Under the terms of the problem the plane was supposed to stand still, and the conveyor belt under it, move. GORYNYCH, 16 years ago, #
I tried to repeat the experience on a piece of drawing paper and a homemade machine from Lego, with a sharp dash of drawing paper, the machine gets a positive acceleration, reverse acceleration of drawing paper. These things mean that kind of speed it gets, but small, as a piece of drawing paper is not very large Stakan, 16 years ago, #
But what's the difference? The plane, except the wings, to fly air is required and the screw, and not the ground and the wheels. They are in the process do not participate. Stakan, your experience with the machine is absolutely useless. There are no screw machines, it can not push off from the air. In contrast to the aircraft. Jeka_M, 16 years ago, #
The plane pushed away from the earth as a result of margin pressure over the wing and under wing, but to create that difference should be accelerated, and experience shows that the movement of drawing paper creates a noncollinear acceleration for cars and creates conditions for the plane takes off! Stakan, 16 years ago, #
Mistaken, collinear, but the reverse acceleration Stakan, 16 years ago, #
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Pendosy halfwits smelly! Especially this queer bald with a beard ... Yak54, 16 years ago, #
Uhahahaah)))) @ntuan, 16 years ago, #
Zhostko 080894, 16 years ago, #
And what they halfwits, if fully confirmed that the plane will fly as usual? And it's true. Jeka_M, 16 years ago, #
Okay you defend them, the rules guys, the current here is a country they debility. @ntuan, 16 years ago, #
: v‚¬ - is Jamie Hyneman LainerRRW, 16 years ago, #
yak54, but what are you better? Stakan, 16 years ago, #
Yak54 you bl * intelligent and pleasant smelling. Fool and comment, your priduroshny respectively. dinsoft, 16 years ago, #
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I want, and your stone in the garden pendosam throw ... based on the conditions of the problem, I understand that they are hoping to unwind the wheel to the speed at which the separation device ...(!).. tried to understand my fishing rod and wheels ... -could not ... I tried to understand the logic pendosov-vasche died ... ... the conclusion pendosam on crafting vasche not need wings (!), for their promotion of the wheels ship (even afraid to write) takes elevating force ... shl .. ... If I had my fishing rod was in place and not go ahead and tape, in turn, drove back, it fully complies with the condition ... Samosaboy craft would not take off ... well ... No wonder they are called "destroyers of myths"))) Pendosy-not byliby PENDOSAMI, if only Kogonia (upgrade sorry) ... Do not Borowski)))) Required to call transfer "destroy BRAINS" ... P / S / For inoculation, was sitting on YouTube, and looked roller about plane crash, every dupe, But gestures real ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v​=si_GHCOW1Tg&;feature=related Zy.y.y ... Maybe a Amerikosov, physics another, and fishing rod wings are only for "aesthetics"? DED-CHEL, 16 years ago, #
And you sense the problem well understood? Crux of the matter is that the speed with which not pull the tape back - LinkBacks plane, he would still break up and fly, because He is not repelled from the strip and from vozdha. ROCK_AVIA, 16 years ago, #
That's it! How many planes should still take off from the conveyor belt, so to all arrive? DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
you're so vain ... I understand perfectly ... and the guys in fasting is the irony. DED-CHEL, 16 years ago, #
Ok, I removed RєRѕRјRµRЅS‚. Let us not to shit because of this :-) Jeka_M, 16 years ago, #
ROCK_AVIAmem (16 minutes ago): And you sense the problem well understood? Crux of the matter is that the speed with which not pull the tape back - LinkBacks plane, he would still break up and fly, because He is not repelled from the strip and from vozdha. in every now and then that air tackle (for elevating force) where? If the stream is relatively sorosti v.sudna stable and equal to 0. qada board begins to run, the flow becomes denser, and the wings are rely on that as well, they are simply diluted takomzhe prstranstve as TADA, when the engine was turned off ... And the video we see that the plane vsetaki started running start ... and yet ... the "focus" would be more interesting and more understandable (to some) if the craft was on the spot, and it was blowing a stream of air from such an aero dynamic pipes, Tada, yes, he would have made the break, taka as air tight and has appeared elevating force, respectively wings lay on the stream and there was a gap ... shl. (but then it could be argued that the plane can take off quite without a run and do not run dvigla ... As he tries dviglo if potok.uzhe creates the necessary speed for the wing .. DED-CHEL, 16 years ago, #
Well ... skukota. DrSnake, 16 years ago, #
start with the nice people that overclock propeller plane, but no wings ... Acceleration, he begins to rely on the air, okay? second ...-- Plus - to disperse the aircraft lift force REQUIRED .--- Duc Overclocking then nebylo, fishing rod should be in place ... If you had to stand on the flow sorosti v.sudna stable and equal to = 0 "- how it can be set to 0 if the rotating propeller plane, which produces air flow ?---- just because that do not screw blows plane, and a counter-flow, prikin what should be the screw on its diameter, so blow ploskot to the extent that created elevating force? DED-CHEL, 16 years ago, #
Here I wedged. "in that time and again that the air to take (for elevating force) where?" - Like where? From the Sun on the motion vector for the direction forward. Go ahead. Sun to begin moving along the vector, the forward direction, the lifting force is not necessary. Need a rotating propeller. Jeka_M, 16 years ago, #
In the previous post corrected. 1) "start with the nice people that overclock propeller plane, but no wings" - and I mean it and say. 2) "Tuk overclocking then nebylo, fishing rod should be in place was to stand ..." from what it was he had to stand on the spot?? Dispersal once again was after! From the rotating propeller, and not from the flow of blowing the fuselage. Jeka_M, 16 years ago, #
DED-CHEL, which means "where will the air?". That's right, the video we see that the plane began to run, because he is not repelled by the moving belt, and from the fixed (otnositelno ground) of air and soars as obychno.A speed tapes only increases the frequency of rotation of the wheel chassis. ROCK_AVIA, 16 years ago, #
AAAAAAAAAAAA ... Guys Duc fishing rod should be in place to stand was .... only the wheels were spinning from the fact that the painting back riding, fishing rod and then he started to overclock ... ie the same as without the sheets .. DED-CHEL, 16 years ago, #
DED-CHEL, sorry, but you persecute specifically ... (I will not hurt). Clearer than you wrote ROCK_AVIA not say. Fishing rod will not stay in place because of the moving fabric back, because it screws build on AIR. And the tape it on @ army. Jeka_M, 16 years ago, #
in what sense TADA etgo myth? R·S‹ ... you won ... I went there dumplings .. DED-CHEL, 16 years ago, #
That's the sense that there is no sense! He came up with some fools. They can not logically conceive. Or do not know from which flies the plane, due to what he does run. What forces act at the same time. Jeka_M, 16 years ago, #
And yet - bon appetit :-) Jeka_M, 16 years ago, #
ATP) after your last post, I realized that you understand me correctly) DED-CHEL, 16 years ago, #
ATP) after your last post, I realized that you understand me correctly) DED-CHEL, 16 years ago, #
(2 seconds ago): ROCK_AVIAmem (34 minutes ago): And you sense the problem is well understood? "The bottom line is that the speed with which did not pull the tape - LinkBacks plane, he would still break up and fly, because He is not repelled from the strip and from vozdha. ========================================= ======= Absurd! tape moving in the opposite direction at a speed of 48 km / h on the point on the earth where there was a plane called the point A. The plane was on the point A, with the tape moving, ie engine gave out those turnovers, during which the rate was equal to 48 km / h, but the plane did not take off, not enough lift-ie. velocity relative to the flow was increased 0.Oboroty engine-aircraft began to move in the opposite direction of the belt and also moved relative to point A and the flow begins to occur on the wings of the lifting force necessary for vzleta.Sut that he tore himself away at a speed of only 48 km / h on the flow of air, but the engine gave out the frenzied pace. It's like when blowing a fair wind, that blowing from behind the wing. Where there is a positive lift force?? Have to increase engine speed, and if you do not have enough power? plane will reduce the height to enter into a spin, ie have to plan to increase the positive lift force, but what? Correct height decrease. Correct me if I'm wrong Heinkel, 16 years ago, #
I mean that if you pull the plane back, the flow of blowing the rear edge of the wing that would compensate for this, will have to increase turnover, but on the ground AIRCRAFT Relying on the chassis rather than the lift of the air, as during the flight! "During the takeoff run - counter-flow of air blows the wing and the plane takes off! If the counter-flow is not enough, it will not fly. Heinkel, 16 years ago, #
"Would you like ravioli? DED-CHEL, 16 years ago, #
What? Stakan, 16 years ago, #
Simply take a Sim Cessna, stand on the runway with the brakes, turns on the engine, put the max and my God you're here also detaches from the ground? How's that? You have proven that yeah? What's here he flow from the propeller blows and we are flying! DELIRIUM! Heinkel, 16 years ago, #
Heinkel, corrected. You are wrong. 1) engine will just turn at normal speed. But the wheels - almost twice as fast. Because the aircraft ago, no one drags. Haul the canvas under the wheels. We go further - the plane is not important the speed and direction of rotation of the wheels for takeoff. Because he is repulsed NOT wheels off the ground (pipes in this case), and the screw from the air. More questions? Jeka_M, 16 years ago, #
Heinkel, on your last post - where you saw this from us?? For dull - we do not prove that the plane will fly from the place! We say that the flight leave as usual! What he will not stand in the place that he will drive and fly with the same speed relative to earth. And spend the takeoff run the same distance as usual. (This is unless of course unrecorded dumb an increase of force of rolling friction. But they are so insignificant that they can prinebrech) Jeka_M, 16 years ago, #
All? Questions over, or even a wish? Jeka_M, 16 years ago, #
Heinkel, well here for so many answers given ... and video, you look, well, not Shall still do not understand? "Do not confuse the car and plane, the first is repelled from the surface on which stands as the second of VOZDUHA.Prosto sense to write no more see, good night all! ROCK_AVIA, 16 years ago, #
Similarly, he realized his mistake, with respect to ground speed will be the zhe.Ya not realized that the speed relative to the ground. Now doperlo, as he remembered taking off from aircraft carrier, when taking off in the direction of an aircraft carrier, the rate increased after the separation, ie added the speed of an aircraft carrier, and when taking off in the opposite direction, the velocity after the separation, umenshalas.No on aircraft carrier speed menyalas.Vse not understand. Excuse me who inflicted moral damage to its wrong: (. Heinkel, 16 years ago, #
Heinkel, bravo! I am glad that you understand :-) And a great example about the aircraft carrier resulted. It is a relief when a man comes to the truth, and it all becomes clear. But this requires all second only to think logically. Mathematics and the formulas for this are not needed. Jeka_M, 16 years ago, #